From hasbenrocker@yahoo.com Sun Jan 08 14:54:13 2006
Subject:Re: BX-3 & PK5

As you'll note in my 2nd most recent post, it's a done deal. I've told others "I always wanted to die owning a Hammond". Don't mean to be morbid, but I sold my last B-3 with much relutance. I'll never part with a Hammond again.

The dealer? Gold as far as I'm concerned. Never had a problem, and he has my full trust. I certainly would have preferred to see and play what I purchase first, but it wasn't an option.

The mystery Hammond I'm seeking information on was really what I wanted to begin with... a living room piece. The Korg seemed perfect. Didn't find the mystery Hammond 'til after I placed the order. I would never back out, and besides, I do needed something to take to jam sessions. That's why the Korg BX-3 was my initial choice. I'm hopeing I can swing both. I feel confident the XK-3 will be equal to the BX-3. I would hope Hammond makes an even better clone of what had been their company's product. There was a UK site that said (in 2005) a wood stand is/was available. Gotta check with the dealer.
Sincere thanks for this down-to-earth advice.

_A_

S S wrote: Seems like you've researched all the alternatives.
However, don't rely to heavily on a manufacturer's
reputation. That can easily change, and at the end of
the day, the manufacturer is not who will be there for
you if you have a problem. It is the dealer. No matter
which product you purchase, I suggest that you look to
your local dealer for all that you can: good
purchasing advice, warranty back-up, after-sales
service and user questions/issues, and even education.
Even if you have to pay a bit more to do business
locally, it is worth it in the long run.

FP

--- allen renles wrote:

> Very interesting and accurate point! I had never
> looked at it from the supply demand angle...
> Support, when needed can be a crucial part of owning
> anything, and Voce has a rep for being the best.
>
> I had mentioned Korg, and their positive response
> response to pre-sale questions. A snag came along
> and queered the deal. Now I trusting Hammond to
> provide what I need in and instrument and hopefully
> don't need in support. The XK-3 Elolution system has
> become my second choice. They were not first,
> because of a heftier price tag. The Voce reached a
> point in the running primarily based on their
> reputation. They lost in the first round because of
> a lack of information being available on the Keys. I
> had no way of judging it. Lots of info and finally
> MP3 samples literally sold me on a pair of Nords,
> and sewed up my almost purchase of the BX-3. The
> decision to go with the Hammond XK-3 was made
> primarily on faith in the dealer, Hammond's
> reputation, and the fact I had sold my last B-3. Oh
> yea... and drawbrars!
>
> Thnks for your point of view
>
> S S wrote:
> That's an interesting way around the fact that the
> BX-3 doesn't have pedal drawbars or pedal tones.
> However, your solution won't have the same pedal
> tones
> as on a classic tonewheel organ, IMO.
>
> Two manual clones don't sell nearly as well as
> single
> manuals. Perhaps, they seem like the obvious
> line/brand extension of the Hammond clone single
> manual keyboards to manufacturers. But, the end-user
> just isn't there, I don't think. Before we evaluate
> the Voce too much, let's not leave out the others -
> Korg, Roland, and HS's pricey XK System. I would
> surmise that none of these are kicking butt in the
> market. Why?? For manufacturers to count on the
> weekend musicians to purchase them is ill-advised
> since, in many cases, they don't want to spend that
> much money nor do they want something that heavy.
> So,
> where does a manufacturer or dealer go for
> sell-through in the market for two manual portables?
> Perhaps churches, schools, clubs, recording studios?
> I
> really don't think so. These venues want the "real
> deal" (vintage Hammond) and/or a great looking
> cabinet.
>
> Yes, some of these two manuals will be sold, but it
> will never be enough to keep the lights on, so to
> speak.
>
> FP
>
> --- allen renles wrote:
>
> > BX-3. Looking for not-so-obvious comments on it
> and
> > Roland's PK-5. Buying both. Plan on using a Boss
> DS
> > 330 as a bass source, unless I hear of something
> > better.
> >
> > Got a new, kick-A$$ computer. I had been using a
> > Roland Scc-1 (card) for years. Very rare, sounds
> > great, won't fit in the new motherboard. (Old
> longer
> > type card... (ISO?)
> >
> > Same sounds as the Boss DS 330. This is the card
> > originally suggested by PG music for
> Band-In-A-Box.
> > Really great sound!!! Does not sound "midi".
> Anyone
> > interested can make an offer . Be sure it will fit
> > in your motherboard. It goes on ebay if nobody
> > responds. I paid $300+ in 1990's dollars. What's
> it
> > worth to you?
> > Any suggestions for an alternative?
> >
> > Also I hear that Voce's "Keys" is not doing
> well???
> > Does anyone have one? Comments?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > See ya'll
> >
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