From tonysounds@yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 08:16:05 2004
Subject:Re: Question for VR-760/V-Combo owners

OK, I have the DEFINITIVE answer to this question, and while Patrick
is probably right about the manual's answer, like the Roland A80,
it's taking a very long and confusing path for a simple problem.
There is a much simpler way to do this.

I've hooked my Vcombo up to my A90 and have successfully accomplished
what you're looking for. For the sake of argument and simplicity
(and since it's what you asked for), let's say you are going to use
the Vcombo in organ and piano mode, and you want to use the Vcombo's
keyboard (the whole keyboard) to control the organ, and your external
keyboard (all of it) to control the piano (or synth). To further
simplify things, let's make organ Midi Channel 1, piano Midi Channel
2, and the synth Midi Channel 3. (Please keep in mind that the Vcombo
does suffer the limitation of only being able to do ONE split, and
that the 3rd sound selected, in this case the synth, will be played
from both keyboards, so we are not going to select a third sound.)

This is VERY simple, and the explanation is more involved than the
actual procedure, TRUST ME.

Take the Midi Out of your external keyboard controller, and plug it
into the Vcombo's Midi In.

Go to the top right of your Vcombo, and select SPLIT. Using the
cursor, scroll down until you get to SPLIT POINT, and then using the
INC cursor, make the SPLIT POINT G7. (this sets the highest key as
your split point, which will be fine in this case because those
highest notes are not only "improper" from an organ point of view but
are totally unlistenable as well) Scroll down until you get to the
L - U page and make L(ower) select ORGAN, and make U(pper) select
PIANO.

Now, go back to the top right and select the EDIT button, and then
select the SYS MIDI key.
Scroll down so that LOCAL says ON,
Scroll down until MIDI TX MODE says INTERNAL,
Scroll down to ORGAN MIDI CHANNEL and select 1,
Scroll down to PIANO MIDI CHANNEL and select 2,
Scroll down SYNTH MIDI CHANNEL and select 3.

Go into the Organ mode to make sure its octave placement is where you
want it, and then save the "registration." Now you're good to go!

Sounds harder than it actually is. And the beauty of it is you leave
the "system" set that way, and you still have the option of
controlling both sounds from your Vcombo in each Registration via the
split point, if you want to.

Hope this helps. Like I said, Roland's A80 trained me in the way
Roland thinks....or at least caused me to devise my own simpler
workarounds, and while I never bothered to open the manual on this
keyboard, their Quixotic methodology has remained consistent, or at
least my workarounds have.

Peace...
Tony

>
> > Quick question: can you, or can you not, set up a registration on
> the
> > VR-760 such that the local keyboard plays just an organ tone, and
a
> > remote keyboard plays just a piano tone? Full keyrange for both,
> > no 'layering'. I'm looking for full, simultaneous support of
piano
> > and organ sounds out of this beast.