From groovecake@yahoo.com Mon Dec 16 09:26:40 2002
Subject:Re: What would you improve/solve in the B4 ?

David,

I have a SpeakEasy. That doesn't mean they can't
improve the actual program itself.

Mitch

--- David Jacques wrote:
> Hate to repeat what all have been saying.. but the
> simple solution to
> most of these issues is the Speakeasy preamp. It
> really does add a lot
> of clarity and balls to the sound of a clone... and
> it smoothes out the
> top end of the CX3, which is a joy! In fact, I wish
> I kept my V1.0 CX3
> operating system as the SE really solved the
> harshness problem... I
> played without the Speakeasy on Saturday night and
> the top end of the
> V2.0 CX3 sounded fine, but the rig lacked the
> clarity in the midrange
> that the SE provides. Worth every dollar!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M T [mailto:groovecake@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:07 AM
> To: CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CWSG] Re: What would you improve/solve
> in the B4 ?
>
> I am a RABID B4 user and advocated. I love the
> program
> and I am picky as hell. Please pass this on.
>
> Now...for the things I would like to see different:
>
> 1. The 838000000 setting, which is the standard jazz
> second manual setting is a little...muddy in the
> high
> end. Listen to any Joey DeFrancesco record and you
> will hear what I mean. It needs to be a little more
> transparent when comping chords and such. It's too
> thick right now.
>
> 2. The pedal tones are way way way too weak. They
> are
> unusable in a live setting. I should be able to kick
> a
> pedal tone, comp with my left hand on the second
> manual and solo with my right hand on the top and
> have
> all three tones be close to equal. That's not
> possible
> on the B4. The pedal is too weak.
>
> 3. Like all clones, the top octave of the B4 when
> using the "Jimmy Smith" (888000000, 3rd perc, C3
> chorus) is a tad harsh. Listen to a real B-3 top
> end...it's not piercing...somehow it's nice and warm
> and ballsy.
>
> 4. Onboard reverb. 'Nuff said.
>
> Those are the things I can come up with off the top
> of
> my head.
>
> Another suggestion I would have, if they haven't
> done
> this already, is listen to a few records to get the
> right sound. My suggestions:
>
> "The Champ Volume 1" - Joey DeFrancesco. This record
> covers ALL of the perfect jazz settings. This record
> is a blueprint for jazz organ and for the settings.
>
> "Back To Oakland" - Tower of Power. R&B organ
> settings
> at their finest.
>
> I pick these records not because of the playing, so
> much, but for the sound of the organ. These, in my
> opinion, are the PERFECT sounds of the B-3. I'm sure
> others might think different, but for what I use the
> B4 for, I want it to sound like this.
>
> Again, please pass along my thanks to the engineers
> for this wonderful piece. I will certainly be
> purchasing the upgrade when it's ready.
>
> Mitch
>
> --- "elggobo "
> wrote:
> > --- In CloneWheel@yahoogroups.com, "demone7575
> > "
> > wrote:
> > > I'm currently directly in contact with the B4
> > project leader and
> > > he's very opened to suggestions, mostly about
> the
> > sound of the
> > leslie
> >
> > A couple of items that would be good if they could
> > be changed:
> >
> > 1' drawbar is not defeated when percussion is on
> > - would be good if this worked like on a Hammond
> so
> > that the 1'
> > drawbar is disabled when percussion is on. All
> > those building
> > console style controllers will run into this issue
> > sooner or later.
> > It is a very nice performance feature of an
> > A100/B3/C3/RT3/A105 etc.
> > - a possibility is to provide an option so it can
> > work either way.
> > ie. you can choose whether the 1' drawbar is
> > defeated or not. This
> > would be backward compatible.
> >
> > Too many pedal drawbars
> > - would be good if there were two pedal drawbars a
> > 16' and an 8'
> > just like on a Hammond console rather than those
> > currently
> > provided. Again, those building controllers using
> > recycled Hammond
> > drawbar bases will run into this problem sooner or
> > later.
> > - a possibility would be to provide an option like
> > on the VK-7 which
> > offers either composite (authentic) or individual
> > (just like the
> > manuals) settings
> >
> > It would be great if these features could be
> > included, as both are
> > valuable performance features when playing an
> > authentic Hammond
> > console.
> > Regards
> >
> > James
> >
>
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